Comments on: Ronald Reagan: The Bad and the Ugly http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ A San Francisco Blog Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:21:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: derrp http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2631 derrp Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:53:32 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2631 People with serious mental illness (SMI) do not perpetrate more violence against others than those without SMI. In fact, people with SMI are more likely than members of the general public to be victims of violence themselves. However, partly because we have a horribly inadequate mental health care system in this country, people with SMI are more likely to have substance abuse problems than members of the general public. And substance abuse is associated with an increase in violent behavior towards others. So let's not scapegoat people with SMI without foundation here. Source: http://www.macarthur.virginia.edu/violence.html People with serious mental illness (SMI) do not perpetrate more violence against others than those without SMI. In fact, people with SMI are more likely than members of the general public to be victims of violence themselves.

However, partly because we have a horribly inadequate mental health care system in this country, people with SMI are more likely to have substance abuse problems than members of the general public. And substance abuse is associated with an increase in violent behavior towards others.

So let’s not scapegoat people with SMI without foundation here.

Source:
http://www.macarthur.virginia.edu/violence.html

]]> By: Christian Rudolph http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2421 Christian Rudolph Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:31:03 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2421 Also, Reagan was not in any way responsible for the Soviet Union collapsing economically. The collapse was caused by the Saudis, who got into a price war by flooding the market with cheap oil, destroying the Russian market and causing the nation to collapse economically and then politically. Read about it in the book _The End of Oil_. Reagan took credit, but he had nothing to do with it. He lied about everything, especially this. Stop crediting this evil man with this. He had not the power to destroy Soviet Russia. They did that themselves by not diversifying their markets, and having a failed economic system. Also, Reagan was not in any way responsible for the Soviet Union collapsing economically.
The collapse was caused by the Saudis, who got into a price war by flooding the market with cheap oil, destroying the Russian market and causing the nation to collapse economically and then politically.
Read about it in the book _The End of Oil_.
Reagan took credit, but he had nothing to do with it.
He lied about everything, especially this.
Stop crediting this evil man with this. He had not the power to destroy Soviet Russia. They did that themselves by not diversifying their markets, and having a failed economic system.

]]> By: Christian Rudolph http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2420 Christian Rudolph Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:26:19 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2420 Reagan cut funding to a mental health facility that was holding a violent criminal that, when he was released, raped my wife and damaged her forever. Reagan was also shot by a mentally ill man. You would think that the shooting would have changed his mind, but no. Reagan had no soul. He was pure evil and I hope he rots in hell. Reagan cut funding to a mental health facility that was holding a violent criminal that, when he was released, raped my wife and damaged her forever.
Reagan was also shot by a mentally ill man.
You would think that the shooting would have changed his mind, but no. Reagan had no soul. He was pure evil and I hope he rots in hell.

]]> By: Hannah Stevens http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2267 Hannah Stevens Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:28:07 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2267 In answer to Tara's comment, all of this wealth in the United States is concentrated in the upper one percent and they don't care. They have guard gated communities and live in fairy tail worlds while the rest of us grovel for the crumbs. You have to wonder how many people have been killed by mentally ill people who would have been helped if Reagan hadn't cut mental health care in this nation. In answer to Tara’s comment, all of this wealth in the United States is concentrated in the upper one percent and they don’t care. They have guard gated communities and live in fairy tail worlds while the rest of us grovel for the crumbs. You have to wonder how many people have been killed by mentally ill people who would have been helped if Reagan hadn’t cut mental health care in this nation.

]]> By: Tara McKenzie http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1173 Tara McKenzie Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:53:23 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1173 Thank you for reminding folks of the heinous acts of the former Governor and President Reagan. Recently I saw a President Reagan stamp on correspondence from a homeless shelter to which I donate and felt physically ill. If Reagan hadn't shut down all of those mental hospitals I wonder how many of the people that use that shelter would be getting treatment and hopefully getting better instead of living on the streets endangering themselves and possibly others. Sometimes I am really embarrassed to be an American; all this wealth and we still can't spare a little extra to help out our own citizens who really need it. Thanks again for giving me faith that some of my fellow citizens have their priorities in line with good, instead of greed. Thank you for reminding folks of the heinous acts of the former Governor and President Reagan. Recently I saw a President Reagan stamp on correspondence from a homeless shelter to which I donate and felt physically ill. If Reagan hadn’t shut down all of those mental hospitals I wonder how many of the people that use that shelter would be getting treatment and hopefully getting better instead of living on the streets endangering themselves and possibly others. Sometimes I am really embarrassed to be an American; all this wealth and we still can’t spare a little extra to help out our own citizens who really need it. Thanks again for giving me faith that some of my fellow citizens have their priorities in line with good, instead of greed.

]]> By: Alf http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1172 Alf Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:51:11 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1172 Yes but "Involuntary treatment" is made for the mentally ill, many of whom were incapable of making their own discision. Surely it would have been better to reform mental health service rather than just close all the available facilities. Yes but “Involuntary treatment” is made for the mentally ill, many of whom were incapable of making their own discision. Surely it would have been better to reform mental health service rather than just close all the available facilities.

]]> By: Jean http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1171 Jean Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:31:37 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1171 To close or not to close the mental hospitals is on the contrary an elitist invention since the beginning of asylums'. Read Deviance and Medicalization From Badness to Sickness by Peter Conrad and Joseph W. Schneider and do your homework. Please stop perpetuating conservative ignorance. To close or not to close the mental hospitals is on the contrary an elitist invention since the beginning of asylums’. Read Deviance and Medicalization
From Badness to Sickness by Peter Conrad and Joseph W. Schneider and do your homework. Please stop perpetuating conservative ignorance.

]]> By: Alan Hagedorn http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1170 Alan Hagedorn Sun, 25 Jul 2004 16:45:52 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1170 You imply that Reagan closed down the state mental hospitals as though he was callous and didn't care. Before he did this, there 37,000 patints in 11 stae hospitals. The ACLU was suing on behalf of patients being involuntarily committed. the Lanterman-Petris-Short act replaced the large state hospitals with county operated mental health care systems and provided a legal basis for institutionalizing patients. Thanks to the ACLU pressure, involuntary treatment caused the mental heath population to rapidly decline. There are still 5 state hospitals today. Please stop perpetuating this liberal myth. You imply that Reagan closed down the state mental hospitals as though he was callous and didn’t care. Before he did this, there 37,000 patints in 11 stae hospitals. The ACLU was suing on behalf of patients being involuntarily committed. the Lanterman-Petris-Short act replaced the large state hospitals with county operated mental health care systems and provided a legal basis for institutionalizing patients. Thanks to the ACLU pressure, involuntary treatment caused the mental heath population to rapidly decline. There are still 5 state hospitals today. Please stop perpetuating this liberal myth.

]]> By: Meerenai http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1169 Meerenai Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:36:44 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1169 I'm waiting to see how the conservatives deal with Nancy Reagan's push for stem cell research. I’m waiting to see how the conservatives deal with Nancy Reagan’s push for stem cell research.

]]> By: Fabian http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1168 Fabian Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:07:14 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1168 Also see, <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5166503/" rel="nofollow">"Reagan: man of contradictions?"</a> Also see, “Reagan: man of contradictions?”

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