Comments on: Ronald Reagan: The Bad and the Ugly http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ A San Francisco Blog Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:25:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Reggie http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3929 Reggie Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:25:06 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3929 Randy and others above.....you have bashed liberals and quoted Reagan's friendly condescentions....what purpose does that serve. I wish people would promote education and not ignorance and wasting time and space. It doesn't matter whether you are liberal or conservative...many are siding differently depending upon issues. Looking at the facts and having lived through the Reagan Era, I respectfully find the deceased president nothing more than a person of ignorance. It was amazing to me to watch him bumble his way through speeches and not have a clue on the issues. I could never understand how someone could cast a vote for him or the Bushes either. But, look at the facts and you see that he demolished the working class, increased homelessness, demolished (not just carefully revised) social programs, and of course provided the division of wealth that has largely remained intact today (other than some gap closure by Clinton's years that now has been reverted again in a large fashion). Stereotypical invasive, illegal foreign policy which was twisted to give him credit for ending the Cold War, asa stated in other comments were things that he had little impact on and took credit for all the while (like Bush) participating in and supporting illegal activities in foreign lands abusing others and our tax money, arming the Iranians and Saddam Hussein as well (there were so many other ridiculous decisions he made). To me the list of moronic moves by his 8 years will fill books for all time to come, and yet so many seem to think he should be listed and respected highly....are you kidding me????? Randy and others above…..you have bashed liberals and quoted Reagan’s friendly condescentions….what purpose does that serve. I wish people would promote education and not ignorance and wasting time and space. It doesn’t matter whether you are liberal or conservative…many are siding differently depending upon issues. Looking at the facts and having lived through the Reagan Era, I respectfully find the deceased president nothing more than a person of ignorance. It was amazing to me to watch him bumble his way through speeches and not have a clue on the issues. I could never understand how someone could cast a vote for him or the Bushes either. But, look at the facts and you see that he demolished the working class, increased homelessness, demolished (not just carefully revised) social programs, and of course provided the division of wealth that has largely remained intact today (other than some gap closure by Clinton’s years that now has been reverted again in a large fashion). Stereotypical invasive, illegal foreign policy which was twisted to give him credit for ending the Cold War, asa stated in other comments were things that he had little impact on and took credit for all the while (like Bush) participating in and supporting illegal activities in foreign lands abusing others and our tax money, arming the Iranians and Saddam Hussein as well (there were so many other ridiculous decisions he made). To me the list of moronic moves by his 8 years will fill books for all time to come, and yet so many seem to think he should be listed and respected highly….are you kidding me?????

]]> By: RandyLeanear http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3827 RandyLeanear Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:09:24 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3827 Just like liberal "alternate lifestyles". (and Alternate reality.) You can't show any respect for anybody unless they are a liberal sh!t stupid. If the thing about the mental hospitals is true,and Reagan systematically began closing down mental hospitals.then that explains what must have happened to the liberals. You folks have made "The Twilight Zone" a constant reality in the lives of healthy people. ...and So...It is true what Mr. Reagan said; "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so." President Reagan was always good enough to suggest liberals as and relate to them as friends. It is clear that he was far to nice to them all. Just like liberal “alternate lifestyles”. (and Alternate reality.) You can’t show any respect for anybody unless they are a liberal sh!t stupid. If the thing about the mental hospitals is true,and Reagan systematically began closing down mental hospitals.then that explains what must have happened to the liberals. You folks have made “The Twilight Zone” a constant reality in the lives of healthy people. …and So…It is true what Mr. Reagan said; “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” President Reagan was always good enough to suggest liberals as and relate to them as friends. It is clear that he was far to nice to them all.

]]> By: anne louise http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3799 anne louise Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:21:39 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3799 I keep reminding people of this, amazing how so many aren't aware. I keep reminding people of this, amazing how so many aren’t aware.

]]> By: Freddie Ward http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3710 Freddie Ward Sun, 14 Aug 2011 01:36:10 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3710 Amazing that something so huge can be hidden from the people. Also that most have forgotten that this is the reason our ecomony sucks, inherited DEBT. Let's also not forget that Reagan was merely a puppet, GHWBush is truly to blame!! Amazing that something so huge can be hidden from the people. Also that most have forgotten that this is the reason our ecomony sucks, inherited DEBT. Let’s also not forget that Reagan was merely a puppet, GHWBush is truly to blame!!

]]> By: mike reagan http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3631 mike reagan Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:09:02 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3631 Ronald Reagan was the best president in the history of this country. It took a incompetent leftist boob like Jimmy Carter to almost destroy this country to get him. We now have an even less competent radical Marxist in the Whitehouse who no one knew but now has a horrible record to run on. Let's hope we get another Reagan like conservative to stop and begin to reverse the damage that has been done to this country since the end of the Reagan boom. (2007) Ronald Reagan was the best president in the history of this country. It took a incompetent leftist boob like Jimmy Carter to almost destroy this country to get him. We now have an even less competent radical Marxist in the Whitehouse who no one knew but now has a horrible record to run on. Let’s hope we get another Reagan like conservative to stop and begin to reverse the damage that has been done to this country since the end of the Reagan boom. (2007)

]]> By: Only Me http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3561 Only Me Wed, 25 May 2011 20:58:28 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3561 I am non partisan, therefore, my opinion is based on what I saw and had to put up with for 20 yrs. while living in San Fransicko. I had to put up with the crazies day in and day out. I am referring to very sick, aggressive, filthy, crazy people who stab you, assault you, verbally abuse you, and hit you for no reason at all. It is a known fact that the men rape the crazy/homeless women. These people were let out of the mental hospitals for the poor, they couldn't/can't pay for their hospitalizations, Rx, care, etc. I remember Mr. Reagan saying that he was saving money by not funding this institutions anymore and that their families should take care of them. In principle this sounds o.k. but in reality it is very hard for families who are not trained, don't have the means, are uneducated, have to work overtime, and leave the sick person alone at home by themselves because you never know what they will do when you are away. Also, the crazies have more rights than you and me. I know all this because most of the time I had to work until after 10pm and it was frightening to walk the streets in the San Francisco "Financial District", wait for the bus on Market St. to get home. I saw a lot of stuff and being a woman it was scary. I am non partisan, therefore, my opinion is based on what I saw and had to put up with for 20 yrs. while living in San Fransicko. I had to put up with the crazies day in and day out. I am referring to very sick, aggressive, filthy, crazy people who stab you, assault you, verbally abuse you, and hit you for no reason at all. It is a known fact that the men rape the crazy/homeless women. These people were let out of the mental hospitals for the poor, they couldn’t/can’t pay for their hospitalizations, Rx, care, etc. I remember Mr. Reagan saying that he was saving money by not funding this institutions anymore and that their families should take care of them. In principle this sounds o.k. but in reality it is very hard for families who are not trained, don’t have the means, are uneducated, have to work overtime, and leave the sick person alone at home by themselves because you never know what they will do when you are away. Also, the crazies have more rights than you and me. I know all this because most of the time I had to work until after 10pm and it was frightening to walk the streets in the San Francisco “Financial District”, wait for the bus on Market St. to get home. I saw a lot of stuff and being a woman it was scary.

]]> By: FM Henderson http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3492 FM Henderson Sun, 17 Apr 2011 03:59:30 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3492 All these many years and still the machinations of this man can get people riled! There is something to be said for karma considering how he spent his last years! All these many years and still the machinations of this man can get people riled! There is something to be said for karma considering how he spent his last years!

]]> By: joan turner http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3467 joan turner Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:34:38 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-3467 As the result of cuts in mental health treatment, many are placed in group homes and are neglected. Group homes are for profit organizations. Many times they are understaffed or have poorly trained staff. I can attest to this because I have worked at Saint Elizabeths in Washington, DC and was responsible for treating the chronically mental ill in the community. As the result of cuts in mental health treatment, many are placed in group homes and are neglected. Group homes are for profit organizations. Many times they are understaffed or have poorly trained staff. I can attest to this because I have worked at Saint Elizabeths in Washington, DC and was responsible for treating the chronically mental ill in the community.

]]> By: derrp http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2631 derrp Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:53:32 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2631 People with serious mental illness (SMI) do not perpetrate more violence against others than those without SMI. In fact, people with SMI are more likely than members of the general public to be victims of violence themselves. However, partly because we have a horribly inadequate mental health care system in this country, people with SMI are more likely to have substance abuse problems than members of the general public. And substance abuse is associated with an increase in violent behavior towards others. So let's not scapegoat people with SMI without foundation here. Source: http://www.macarthur.virginia.edu/violence.html People with serious mental illness (SMI) do not perpetrate more violence against others than those without SMI. In fact, people with SMI are more likely than members of the general public to be victims of violence themselves.

However, partly because we have a horribly inadequate mental health care system in this country, people with SMI are more likely to have substance abuse problems than members of the general public. And substance abuse is associated with an increase in violent behavior towards others.

So let’s not scapegoat people with SMI without foundation here.

Source:
http://www.macarthur.virginia.edu/violence.html

]]> By: Christian Rudolph http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2421 Christian Rudolph Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:31:03 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2421 Also, Reagan was not in any way responsible for the Soviet Union collapsing economically. The collapse was caused by the Saudis, who got into a price war by flooding the market with cheap oil, destroying the Russian market and causing the nation to collapse economically and then politically. Read about it in the book _The End of Oil_. Reagan took credit, but he had nothing to do with it. He lied about everything, especially this. Stop crediting this evil man with this. He had not the power to destroy Soviet Russia. They did that themselves by not diversifying their markets, and having a failed economic system. Also, Reagan was not in any way responsible for the Soviet Union collapsing economically.
The collapse was caused by the Saudis, who got into a price war by flooding the market with cheap oil, destroying the Russian market and causing the nation to collapse economically and then politically.
Read about it in the book _The End of Oil_.
Reagan took credit, but he had nothing to do with it.
He lied about everything, especially this.
Stop crediting this evil man with this. He had not the power to destroy Soviet Russia. They did that themselves by not diversifying their markets, and having a failed economic system.

]]> By: Christian Rudolph http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2420 Christian Rudolph Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:26:19 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2420 Reagan cut funding to a mental health facility that was holding a violent criminal that, when he was released, raped my wife and damaged her forever. Reagan was also shot by a mentally ill man. You would think that the shooting would have changed his mind, but no. Reagan had no soul. He was pure evil and I hope he rots in hell. Reagan cut funding to a mental health facility that was holding a violent criminal that, when he was released, raped my wife and damaged her forever.
Reagan was also shot by a mentally ill man.
You would think that the shooting would have changed his mind, but no. Reagan had no soul. He was pure evil and I hope he rots in hell.

]]> By: Hannah Stevens http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2267 Hannah Stevens Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:28:07 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-2267 In answer to Tara's comment, all of this wealth in the United States is concentrated in the upper one percent and they don't care. They have guard gated communities and live in fairy tail worlds while the rest of us grovel for the crumbs. You have to wonder how many people have been killed by mentally ill people who would have been helped if Reagan hadn't cut mental health care in this nation. In answer to Tara’s comment, all of this wealth in the United States is concentrated in the upper one percent and they don’t care. They have guard gated communities and live in fairy tail worlds while the rest of us grovel for the crumbs. You have to wonder how many people have been killed by mentally ill people who would have been helped if Reagan hadn’t cut mental health care in this nation.

]]> By: Tara McKenzie http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1173 Tara McKenzie Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:53:23 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1173 Thank you for reminding folks of the heinous acts of the former Governor and President Reagan. Recently I saw a President Reagan stamp on correspondence from a homeless shelter to which I donate and felt physically ill. If Reagan hadn't shut down all of those mental hospitals I wonder how many of the people that use that shelter would be getting treatment and hopefully getting better instead of living on the streets endangering themselves and possibly others. Sometimes I am really embarrassed to be an American; all this wealth and we still can't spare a little extra to help out our own citizens who really need it. Thanks again for giving me faith that some of my fellow citizens have their priorities in line with good, instead of greed. Thank you for reminding folks of the heinous acts of the former Governor and President Reagan. Recently I saw a President Reagan stamp on correspondence from a homeless shelter to which I donate and felt physically ill. If Reagan hadn’t shut down all of those mental hospitals I wonder how many of the people that use that shelter would be getting treatment and hopefully getting better instead of living on the streets endangering themselves and possibly others. Sometimes I am really embarrassed to be an American; all this wealth and we still can’t spare a little extra to help out our own citizens who really need it. Thanks again for giving me faith that some of my fellow citizens have their priorities in line with good, instead of greed.

]]> By: Alf http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1172 Alf Wed, 10 Nov 2004 19:51:11 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1172 Yes but "Involuntary treatment" is made for the mentally ill, many of whom were incapable of making their own discision. Surely it would have been better to reform mental health service rather than just close all the available facilities. Yes but “Involuntary treatment” is made for the mentally ill, many of whom were incapable of making their own discision. Surely it would have been better to reform mental health service rather than just close all the available facilities.

]]> By: Jean http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1171 Jean Tue, 21 Sep 2004 11:31:37 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1171 To close or not to close the mental hospitals is on the contrary an elitist invention since the beginning of asylums'. Read Deviance and Medicalization From Badness to Sickness by Peter Conrad and Joseph W. Schneider and do your homework. Please stop perpetuating conservative ignorance. To close or not to close the mental hospitals is on the contrary an elitist invention since the beginning of asylums’. Read Deviance and Medicalization
From Badness to Sickness by Peter Conrad and Joseph W. Schneider and do your homework. Please stop perpetuating conservative ignorance.

]]> By: Alan Hagedorn http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1170 Alan Hagedorn Sun, 25 Jul 2004 16:45:52 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1170 You imply that Reagan closed down the state mental hospitals as though he was callous and didn't care. Before he did this, there 37,000 patints in 11 stae hospitals. The ACLU was suing on behalf of patients being involuntarily committed. the Lanterman-Petris-Short act replaced the large state hospitals with county operated mental health care systems and provided a legal basis for institutionalizing patients. Thanks to the ACLU pressure, involuntary treatment caused the mental heath population to rapidly decline. There are still 5 state hospitals today. Please stop perpetuating this liberal myth. You imply that Reagan closed down the state mental hospitals as though he was callous and didn’t care. Before he did this, there 37,000 patints in 11 stae hospitals. The ACLU was suing on behalf of patients being involuntarily committed. the Lanterman-Petris-Short act replaced the large state hospitals with county operated mental health care systems and provided a legal basis for institutionalizing patients. Thanks to the ACLU pressure, involuntary treatment caused the mental heath population to rapidly decline. There are still 5 state hospitals today. Please stop perpetuating this liberal myth.

]]> By: Meerenai http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1169 Meerenai Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:36:44 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1169 I'm waiting to see how the conservatives deal with Nancy Reagan's push for stem cell research. I’m waiting to see how the conservatives deal with Nancy Reagan’s push for stem cell research.

]]> By: Fabian http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1168 Fabian Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:07:14 +0000 http://www.dailynugget.com/2004/06/ronald-reagan-the-bad-and-the-ugly/#comment-1168 Also see, <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5166503/" rel="nofollow">"Reagan: man of contradictions?"</a> Also see, “Reagan: man of contradictions?”

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